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    30Q: Can (and should) the Kings make a bid for Jrue Holiday?

    The veteran guard would offer a significant upgrade to the starting lineup.
    By | 35 Comments | Sep 30, 2023

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    As the dust has begun to settle from the blockbuster Damian Lillard trade, eyes have turned toward the Portland Trail Blazers and their expected cash out of the well-respected, highly-talented Jrue Holiday. Understandably, alongside every other fan base of every other team hoping to contend in the 2024 postseason, Kings fans and media personalities have begun to ask themselves the same question. Should the Kings get in on the Jrue Holiday sweepstakes?

    From a talent perspective, Holiday fits exactly what the Kings should be seeking in an upgrade, albeit in the slightly awkward position as an off-guard, rather than the permanent wing that Monte McNair would likely prefer. However, positional fit aside, the soon-to-be former Trail Blazer is one of the most underrated contributors in the league, and despite some fans’ most optimistic view of Davion Mitchell, Holiday is much, much, much closer to a De’Aaron Fox-level player than anyone else on the roster. Last season, he put up 19.3 points, 5.1 boards, and 7.4 assists while knocking down 38% of his 6.1 three-point attempts per game. Add in his stellar perimeter defense, and the vision of a Fox-Holiday shooting, sprinting, and stealing backcourt quite easily comes into focus. There’s no doubt he would offer a significant increase in abilities over Kevin Huerter, the exact sort of upgrade fans hoped for after Sacramento’s first round exit last season.

    Of course, talent isn’t everything, and a few concerns exist when contemplating a pre-holidays Holiday addition to the roster. The first, and least important, is Holiday’s age, especially when considering Sacramento’s young core. At 33 years old, he would easily be the oldest member of the core, although not every young team needs to be entirely young. A player of Holiday’s caliber and experience could provide another steady hand when things get tough on and off the court, providing Sacramento with another well-respected veteran presence in the locker room. He may end up overpaid in the latter years of his production over the course of his next contract, but two to three years of high-caliber play would be worth the possible transformation into a potential contender for the Kings.

    Another cautionary aspect of entering trade negotiations would, in fact, be those trade negotiations. Alongside Deandre Ayton, the Portland Trail Blazers likely view their return on Holiday as their primary return for a top-5 NBA player in Damian Lillard. Put simply, Holiday is not going to come cheap. Thankfully, the Kings have plenty of tradeable assets that may be attractive to a rebuilding team such as the Blazers. A young, locked-up shooter such as Kevin Huerter could hold some interest and Davion Mitchell would certainly be available, while the Kings could also write in some verbiage to include multiple first round draft picks once their obligation to the Atlanta Hawks expires. If the Blazers aren’t interested in Huerter, the Kings could likely ship their sharpshooter to a contending team for additional assets in a three-way deal. Suffice it to say that Sacramento’s front office could likely meet the demand of a young prospect and picks, with Keegan Murray obviously untouchable, although it would remain to be seen if Monte McNair would be willing to meet a high price for a 33-year old.

    Beyond the age and trade cost factors of adding Jrue Holiday, the Kings have one truly significant barrier in their way of acquiring the ultra-talented guard – he makes a lot of money. Holiday is owed about $76 million over the next two seasons, with his 2023-2024 salary coming in around $37 million, and the Kings don’t have many paths toward reaching the needed outgoing cash to make a deal legal. As ironic as it sounds, the dead salary of Richaun Holmes would actually be quite the asset in negotiations at the moment.

    According to NBA trade rules, the Kings need to send out just a hair over $30 million in salary to absorb Holiday’s contract. Assuming that De’Aaron Fox and Keegan Murray are off the table, and with Domantas Sabonis, Harrison Barnes, Trey Lyles, Sasha Vezenkov, JaVale McGee, and Alex Len ineligible for trades due to their recent signings, the Kings have very few paths forward, assuming that Portland isn’t willing to wait around until December 15th for recently-signed free agents to become available. If that’s the case, even a five-to-one player deal of Davion Mitchell, Kevin Huerter, Chris Duarte, Colby Jones, and Kessler Edwards wouldn’t be enough salary to acquire Holiday. As of this moment, with the assumptions included above, the only way to trade for Holiday would be to give up Kevin Huerter, Malik Monk, and Davion Mitchell, a package that would both strip the Kings of all guard depth, as well as hold little interest for a rebuilding Blazers squad. And while the Kings certainly could shop Huerter and Monk to contending teams for other trade chips, the resulting chaos on the roster and in the locker room may not be worth it, even for a player of Holiday’s caliber and reputation.

    In theory, Jrue Holiday fills quite a few gaps for a Kings squad that still has a few holes to fill, but the practicality of his acquisition, at least at the moment, is near zero. If the Blazers are willing to wait a few months for trade fervor to heat up even more, the Kings could re-enter the conversation with Harrison Barnes added as a $17 million salary ballast, but for now, the Kings are likely out of the Holiday race.

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    eddie41
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    September 30, 2023 12:04 pm

    No. cool player, but no.

    Klam
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    September 30, 2023 12:52 pm

    I’d say for that age and price…pass.

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    September 30, 2023 1:24 pm

    The idea of sounds good, but the reality of it isn’t. Kings would need to give up too much. Holiday isn’t all-nba and not worth 3 rotation players plus picks. The sum is greater than the parts when it comes to the Kings rotation. Holiday does not replace that.

    It’s my guess that some contending team is going to sell the farm for Holiday, and more power to them for being that foolish. Hopefully he goes East.

    TheGrantNapear
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    September 30, 2023 6:15 pm
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    Agreed. Just doesn’t make sense for the Kings give Jrue’s age and salary and what it would cost to obtain him. It was just one series and it was against Himmy, but Jrue got embarassed by Jimmy.

    SelecaoKOJ
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    October 2, 2023 11:53 am
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    Therein lies the contradiction. Jrue ends up on the Lakers, Nugs, Dubs, etc. it’s really all over for the Kings.

    Jrue won’t end up in Sac.
    Fit and Salary are the main concerns.
    Age? For me that’s not a concern. He’s still playing at a very high level.
    But the proposed package for him is actually more than Fair.

    Barnes is on the decline. Davion hasn’t proven anything more than he’s a 10-15
    min defensive stopper at the 1. Huerter is Bottom 10-12 of Starting Sgs in the NBA.

    Jrue will automatically make a playoff contender a finals contender.

    Its crazy to think a lot of you believe Jrue is on the decline. A 5x all first team defensive player.

    Jrue is a difference maker. The 3 players offered for him are not. Period.

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    September 30, 2023 1:40 pm

    Ooooh, looks like there’s a chance Draymond won’t be playing on our home opener.

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    September 30, 2023 2:32 pm
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    Ducking the Domas revenge game

    TheGrantNapear
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    September 30, 2023 6:17 pm
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    Seems like Domas was petrified of Draymoron and the Duds frontline post stomp. Domas has a lot to prove against the Duds in terms of his mental toughness.

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    September 30, 2023 3:17 pm
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    He sprained it stomping on Saric.

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    September 30, 2023 3:20 pm
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    September 30, 2023 3:12 pm

    Now here’s a guy worthy of the last roster spot.

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    September 30, 2023 4:33 pm
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    TheGrantNapear
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    September 30, 2023 6:17 pm
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    His game has fallen off a ton but he would serve as good depth.

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    September 30, 2023 4:29 pm

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    As much as I think he is a better addition to any team than Dame, and I worry that he will stay in the West (put him on LAC, PHX, or a trade with Zion and NOP – Oy Vey!)
    Sac has built a cohesive feel good squad for the next 3 seasons that they have the ingredients for, has shown wonderful success with (+18 games last season) and they need to keep this cake in the oven and see if it falls or needs frosting, IMO.

    He creates much good, but complicates the mix (timeline, contracts, whatever you give up). It would be very much a Minny and Rudy Gobert scenario and, at least to me, the paper calculations of that trade didn’t match the anticipated outcome.

    Light The Beam!

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    September 30, 2023 4:53 pm

    Holiday for Zion makes a lot of sense for both teams. It definitely feel like Zion’s time in the Big Easy is nearing an end. PDX gets a young PF for their young core and N.O. gets out of the troubled relationship with Zion for a win now player. N.O. would be scary rolling out a starting 5 of Jrue, C.J., Ingram, Jones, and Jonas.

    Cronin would get some pre-season GM of the year awards if he turns Lillard and change into Ayton, Zion, and first round picks. It would make life more difficult for the Kings, but would be a win/win for both PDX and the Pels.

    Kingme18
    September 30, 2023 6:20 pm

    Kings should absolutely pursue Holiday but can they get something done? Probably not. Would consider trading anyone except Sabonis, Murray, Fox or Monk.

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    September 30, 2023 6:23 pm

    OT:
    I really like what the Blazers are doing and how they are building. They didn’t just luck into Scoot, they were shrewd enough to tank down the stretch to be in a position to take him.
    Scoot
    Sharpe
    Simons
    Ayton
    Grant

    The Grant number is still perplexing but likely still a tradeable contract at some point.

    So many young teams in the West with uber potential (Spurs, Jazz, OKC, Port, Wolves, Pels, Rockets). It’ll be interesting to see which will be juggernauts a few years hence.
    Given the age of their cores, I’d put the Grizz and Kings in their own tier.

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    September 30, 2023 8:40 pm

    I know “positionless” blah blah but Fox and Holiday are both pretty much pure point guards no? Shooting guards should be bigger and less of the floor general… Kobe, Gervin, Reggie Miller, Jordan, Wade… I just don’t think Fox needs a Jrue Holiday… it won’t jive.

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    October 1, 2023 8:59 am

    Holiday traded to Boston.

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    October 1, 2023 9:29 am
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    Wow, it’s an arm’s race between the Bucks and Boston in the East.

    So Lillard turned into Ayton, Brogdon, Williams and 3 first round picks? That’s a pretty good haul.

    Also, I bet PDX may be looking to flip Brogdon and/or Williams.

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    October 1, 2023 10:01 am
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    That’s crazy return for Lillard………..

    The new players (not to mention the staff behind the scene) are getting real busy….packing their stuffs, get new players their jersey…and the training camp starts very soon….

    Lucky that we only needed to face the Bucks and Celtics twice a year

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    October 2, 2023 7:01 pm

    Almost a Rudy Gobert return. We’ll see when the total return is known for all the players and picks Joe Cronin got for Dame. IMO he did a masterful job in maximizing what PDX received for Dame. We’ll see what they ultimately receive for Dame and Jrue Holiday and picks and the throw-ins. Crazy? I’m not sure.

    I believe it’s just the cost of doing business in today’s NBA. I think many of us, at least speaking for myself, thought Rudy brought back the largest return possible. I now know we may not have the have reached the peak yet.

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    October 1, 2023 10:03 am
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    to slip in a little Boston Southie a la Good Will Hunting –

    Brad Stevens is Wicked Smaht.

    And Joe Cronin has a working extendible 3rd metacarpal

    Lose Marcus Smart, gain The Unicorn (Porzingas) sign Jaylen Brown to a bazillion $, and add Jrue Holliday. (no ego, adds D, assists and some scoring) That’s a very well put together team on paper. Oh, and poop on Dame’s Championship aspirations at the same time.

    Wow!

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    October 1, 2023 11:48 am

    I will say – and it’s probably both wrong and unfair – that a snatch and grab trade like this has me respecting Brad Stevens and all but also has me wondering if ol’ Danny Ainge wasn’t advising and inputting to make this deal happen.

    Anyone else feeling that?

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    October 2, 2023 10:16 am

    Ainge wants to help Portland, why?

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    October 1, 2023 4:35 pm
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    Blazers likely looking to move Brogdan, does he move the needle over Davion coming off the bench?

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    October 1, 2023 6:11 pm
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    I don’t know who Portland’s GM is but he must be an OG.
    He turned Dame and his monster contract and Nurkic and his bloated contract into:

    • Brogdon
    • Williams
    • Deandre Ayton
    • Toumani Camara
    • Three future first-round picks, two of them unprotected
    • Two future pick swaps, both unprotected

    Now he’ll likely flip Brogdon and Williams into additional assets.

    Scoot
    Simons
    Sharpe
    Ayton
    Grant

    Not a bad core for a rebuild to go along with ample draft picks.

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    October 1, 2023 7:36 pm
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    I think they keep Time Lord (Robert William III) he’s 25 and fits well with Ayton – that’s a nice 1 – 2 at the 5.

    and Brogdon is a nice veteran presence with Jersmi Grant, but yeah, I think they’ll trade him.

    Agree – he’s (Joe Cronin)done well in flipping the script.

    Dang – the West is formidable.

    I like where Sacramento sits in this Conference.

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    October 1, 2023 7:39 pm

    There’s oddly a little urgency for the Kings to win within the next few years before these younger teams loaded with talent pop.

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    October 1, 2023 7:41 pm
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    Williams has 3 more years at $12M/season

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    October 1, 2023 8:31 pm
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    There’s always some urgency, but potential is just a gamble. There’s no guarantee that the teams with young “talent” ever “pop”. Zion may perpetually be injured. Ayton may never find drive. Any of the other players may find trouble or injuries that prevent them for being anything. I doubt the Kings, or any other team is looking in the rear view mirror and thinking “man we got to get it done now, because it’s about to be Portland’s League (or OKC or NO)”

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    October 1, 2023 10:07 pm

    Obviously no.

    Time Lord, though… maybe

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    October 2, 2023 1:28 pm

    Media Day is here!!!

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    October 2, 2023 1:32 pm

    McGee in a Kings jersey:

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    October 2, 2023 1:46 pm

    Sactown Sports 1140 livestream from media day:

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